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you heard the president last night with mr. romney. mr. romney being a different mr. romney than we've seen him for the last 18 months or the last section years. do you think even with the new hit romney that showed up last night when he starts talking about states' rights, when he starts talking about regulation or deregulation, when he starts saying he doesn't advocate $5 trillion tax cut when in fact the numbers prove that he does and has been advocating that, will that resonate with independent voters and/or undecided voters in your state of ohio? >> i don't think so. i think people realize that governor romney is still wrong on medicare and still wrong on trade and still wrong on jobs and still wrong on the middle class. i think that's increasingly clear. again it goes back to which path do you go. do you want to go back to the trickle down economics you give tax cuts to the rich and hope it helps the middle class or do you focus on the middle class and that's trait enforcement, it's i don't think training at community colleges like columbus state and sinclair. i
you heard the president last night with mr. romney. mr. romney being a different mr. romney than we've seen him for the last 18 months or the last section years. do you think even with the new hit romney that showed up last night when he starts talking about states' rights, when he starts talking about regulation or deregulation, when he starts saying he doesn't advocate $5 trillion tax cut when in fact the numbers prove that he does and has been advocating that, will that resonate with...
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what mr. romney had said. >> i'm sorry, jim. i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs and other things and i like pbs, i like big bird i actually like you to, but not borrowing money to pay china for supporting it. >> and the big broadcasting systems. what's the truth? could big bird be going bye-bye? joining us, from the christian monitor, good morning. >> good morning. >> so are big bird and pbs really in any danger here? >> well, i don't think big bird's had a week this good in a while. he's huge on twitter now. i think his twitter presence increased like 800,000%, and the thing about big bird and "sesame street" is they have so much outside funding. it's not like "sesame street" will disappear. pbs, the subsidy, it's a sizable chunk of their budget and would be a big blow. >>? how much? a perspective? how much the government chips in? >> it fluctuates year to year. 10% to 15%. in 2011, 12% funneled stlu came from the government subsidy. >> definite lay sizable clunk there. pbs has released a statement accusing governor romney of
what mr. romney had said. >> i'm sorry, jim. i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs and other things and i like pbs, i like big bird i actually like you to, but not borrowing money to pay china for supporting it. >> and the big broadcasting systems. what's the truth? could big bird be going bye-bye? joining us, from the christian monitor, good morning. >> good morning. >> so are big bird and pbs really in any danger here? >> well, i don't think big bird's had a week...
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romney will be introduced first. both wives playing the role of debate partner. mrs. romney telling cnn it's been her most important role during the campaign. >> it's a cute thing that he does, almost after every answer. he finds me in the audience. the first thing he does on stage, he takes off his watch, he puts it on the podium. but then he writes "dad." >> reporter: romney's father, who also ran for president. and the first lady acknowledging her own nerves. >> i get so nervous at these debates, and, i'm like one of those parents watching their kid on the balance beam. you just are standing there, trying not to, you know, have any expression at all. >> reporter: advice that comes on the same day they mark something else. >> this is from me to you, honey, happy 20th anniversary. >> reporter: they will likely mark their anniversary with a private dinner after the e the bait tonight. sasha and malia back in washington, they have school tomorrow. several of the romney boys will be here. and we took this image today, tweeted it out. look at this. the debate prep you do
romney will be introduced first. both wives playing the role of debate partner. mrs. romney telling cnn it's been her most important role during the campaign. >> it's a cute thing that he does, almost after every answer. he finds me in the audience. the first thing he does on stage, he takes off his watch, he puts it on the podium. but then he writes "dad." >> reporter: romney's father, who also ran for president. and the first lady acknowledging her own nerves. >> i...
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romney would do if he became president. mr. romney has said recently and vaguely that he supports what president obama is doing in afghanistan in terms of there being a timeline for leaving but he has also said he was against a timeline for leaving in the past. so really who knows? he's not even trying. the closest we've gotten to any competing cogent republican position on the war is probably what we got from senator john mccain at the republican convention when he said that the afghanistan war just shouldn't end. he also thinks that the iraq war shouldn't have ended. so i'm not sure that it's a politically viable position. even if it is an internally cogent one from the senator. for this year's nominee, it's apparently just not going to happen. not unless he starts it now. 40 days out, mitt romney did get as close as he gets to talking about the issue today. in that he spoke before a group of veterans and talked about a concern about veterans. even if he didn't say what he wanted to do about that concern. mr. romney, in fact,
romney would do if he became president. mr. romney has said recently and vaguely that he supports what president obama is doing in afghanistan in terms of there being a timeline for leaving but he has also said he was against a timeline for leaving in the past. so really who knows? he's not even trying. the closest we've gotten to any competing cogent republican position on the war is probably what we got from senator john mccain at the republican convention when he said that the afghanistan...
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because in those states, mr. romney's argument that mr. obama is responsible for a bad economy doesn't work. ohio is more prosperous now than it's been for decades. and in virginia the unemployment rate is less than 6%. mr. romney probably can't win without either of those two states. and the economic conditions in those states, which are much better than the rest of the country, is really seems to be hurting him and helping the president. >> okay. peter brown, thanks for the interesting chat. i appreciate it. >>> now to number five on our list of the top five trending stories. the new intrusion into kate middleton's private life. more photographs of the duchess of cambridge have surfaced. a danish magazine has published photos showing middleton changing her bikini bottoms taken from the front. st. james palace has not said if it will take legal action. [ horse neighs ] look! she wears the scarlet markings! [ man ] out! your kind is not welcome here! nor your odd predilections! miracle whip is tangy and sweet, not odd. [ man ] it's evil! i
because in those states, mr. romney's argument that mr. obama is responsible for a bad economy doesn't work. ohio is more prosperous now than it's been for decades. and in virginia the unemployment rate is less than 6%. mr. romney probably can't win without either of those two states. and the economic conditions in those states, which are much better than the rest of the country, is really seems to be hurting him and helping the president. >> okay. peter brown, thanks for the interesting...
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>> this was mr. romney's long awaited etch a sketch moment at the debate. they decided he was going to pivot from this severe conservative he had been running as during the primary into a more moderate version of his former self and it's clearly incumbent on the obama campaign to keep him in the box they've placed him in, he's too conservative, extreme, out of touch with the american people. i think clearly president obama missed the opportunity to do that during the debate. he kind of let mr. romney climb out of that kind of space that they had put him in, but there will be many other opportunities as we see the president's back strong on the stump hammering romney. there will be another debate. we forget it's a long time ago, mondale wins the first debate against reagan, reagan comes back and cleans his clock in the second one. john kerry in 2004, you remember, won the first debate, against george bush. george bush similarly seemed very unhappy to be there as the president. bush comes back in the second one and wins, goes on to win. so lots of opportunity
>> this was mr. romney's long awaited etch a sketch moment at the debate. they decided he was going to pivot from this severe conservative he had been running as during the primary into a more moderate version of his former self and it's clearly incumbent on the obama campaign to keep him in the box they've placed him in, he's too conservative, extreme, out of touch with the american people. i think clearly president obama missed the opportunity to do that during the debate. he kind of...
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mrs. romney, that's not helping. you better finish the thought. >> i have all the confidence in the world in his ability, in his decisiveness, in his leadership skills, in his understanding of the economy, in his understanding of what's missing right now in the economy, you know, the pieces that are missing to get this jump started. so for me i think it would be the emotional part of it. >> right. he's capable, decisive, and emotionally troubled? well, that is an october surprise. let's get right to our panel this afternoon. with us from washington, msnbc political analyst karen finney, who is a democratic strategist. also julian epstein, who is a democratic strategist, and here in new york msnbc political analyst professor michael eric dyson. professor dyson, mitt romney's wife says she's concerned about his mental health. paul ryan says he's inarticulate. if he can't think straight and he can't speak properly, is mitt romney george bush in disguise? >> i'll tell what you. i want to give you the baseline, i don't ha
mrs. romney, that's not helping. you better finish the thought. >> i have all the confidence in the world in his ability, in his decisiveness, in his leadership skills, in his understanding of the economy, in his understanding of what's missing right now in the economy, you know, the pieces that are missing to get this jump started. so for me i think it would be the emotional part of it. >> right. he's capable, decisive, and emotionally troubled? well, that is an october surprise....
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the romney thesis is that the economy was getting worse. it was obama's fault, and romney was mr. fix-it. and in each of those tenets it seemed to me they have gone out the window. i think obama will start asking where is the beef. the numbers are very clear about the economic turnaround since he's been president. he has an economic jobs recovery act now which by everybody's reckoning would create somewhere between 1 million and 2 million jobs. on the other hand, you have romney who has no economic plan whatsoever other than to say i want to cut taxes below the 15% ofg dp that they are right now, and then the other night he says, well, i don't want to actually cut the actual tax rate, i want to cut rates and then i want to increase deductions and give us effectively the same amount of taxes coming into the economy which leaves him with an unutterly incoherent record. with romney you have nothing and i think the message you will start hearing next week is going back to that old mondale commercial, where is the beef, show us the beef, because there ain't none there. >> john, before
the romney thesis is that the economy was getting worse. it was obama's fault, and romney was mr. fix-it. and in each of those tenets it seemed to me they have gone out the window. i think obama will start asking where is the beef. the numbers are very clear about the economic turnaround since he's been president. he has an economic jobs recovery act now which by everybody's reckoning would create somewhere between 1 million and 2 million jobs. on the other hand, you have romney who has no...
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jumped on. >> mr. president, your entitled to your own airplane and your own house, but not your facts. >> joining me is shawn splicer and democratic national committee communications director brad woodhouse. we are going into the specifics of what was said last night, but brad, let me start with you. i want to ask both of you this, analysts say that these debates in a battle between style versus substance, style wins out in the end. how much does fact checking matter? >> well, look, i think it matters. what i think you saw last night happened with mitt romney was he took some short-term gain for some long-term pain. i mean, look, chris, last night if mitt romney was talking, he was lying. he lied about his tax plan that cost $5 trillion. his campaign has never disputed that his tax plan costs $5 trillion until last night. he lied about medicare and what his plan will do. >> we are going to get into some of those specifics, so here's -- >> here's my point, chris. i don't believe that style will win out
jumped on. >> mr. president, your entitled to your own airplane and your own house, but not your facts. >> joining me is shawn splicer and democratic national committee communications director brad woodhouse. we are going into the specifics of what was said last night, but brad, let me start with you. i want to ask both of you this, analysts say that these debates in a battle between style versus substance, style wins out in the end. how much does fact checking matter? >>...
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>>> and this is what it looks like for mr. romney. big bird is crashing the party and president obama continues to call the romney team out. >> now, my opponent, he's doing a lot of little -- a little tap dance at the debate the other night, trying to writiiggle out stuff he's been saying for a year. it was like dancing with the stars. >> all that plus, breaking news out of ohio tonight. a win for democracy. stay with us. you're watching "politicsnation" on msnbc. >> before the debate last night, there was a coin toss to see which candidate would speak first. it was an awkward moment when romney asked, what's that shiny little disk you're holding? ♪ [ male announcer ] introducing the all-new completely re-imagined 2013 chevrolet malibu. sleek new styling... sophisticated dual cockpit design, and sport sculpted seats. available chevrolet mylink infotainment system. the all-new 2013 chevrolet malibu. ♪ refined comfort to get you in a malibu state of mind no matter what state you live in. ♪ >>> are you part of the "politicsnation"
>>> and this is what it looks like for mr. romney. big bird is crashing the party and president obama continues to call the romney team out. >> now, my opponent, he's doing a lot of little -- a little tap dance at the debate the other night, trying to writiiggle out stuff he's been saying for a year. it was like dancing with the stars. >> all that plus, breaking news out of ohio tonight. a win for democracy. stay with us. you're watching "politicsnation" on msnbc....
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both mr. obama and romney will come well prepared for that. it's how they conduct themselves, how they come across to viewers and a lot of that's very, very personal. frankly, you can't really rehearse it. that's what makes the anticipation so high. the expectation game so important, it's the unscripted moment that people are watching for. bill? >> bill: 50 million plus americans watching four years ago. huge audience. >>> 25-year-old who graduated from college earned a law degree and passed the florida bar exam. now fighting to get his law license. the problem was and is, he's an illegal immigrant. he came to the u.s. with his parents at the age of nine on a visitor's visa and when that expired, they never left. now he's hoping to convince the florida supreme court to let him practice law, even though he's undocumented. at a hearing today, the justices appeared skeptical, questioning whether they have the authority to do so since it's against federal law. they also talked about delaying a decision to see if the man gets a work permit under pr
both mr. obama and romney will come well prepared for that. it's how they conduct themselves, how they come across to viewers and a lot of that's very, very personal. frankly, you can't really rehearse it. that's what makes the anticipation so high. the expectation game so important, it's the unscripted moment that people are watching for. bill? >> bill: 50 million plus americans watching four years ago. huge audience. >>> 25-year-old who graduated from college earned a law...
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mr .ll vote trent my job is not to worry about these people. >> one of mitt romney's central arguments of the campaign is president obama just has not createbs. wyonols that have not created the jobs america needs, then you know it's time to choose a new lead, get a new coach. get amica owinagai >> romney's spokesperson andrea sal lead out the official romney line on msnbc today. >> haven't created a single net new job. >> that was september 4th. excuse me. today romneyost thiargunt thr oor statistics announced a provision to its jobs count from march of 2011 to march of this year. the revised number includes an additional 386,000 jobs. this means more than 5 mlion jobs have been added since presenama ok fice th bin here? there are more jobs now than when the president took over for george w. bush in january of 2009. this has been one of romney's main attacks on the president. and now, it's off the table. romney isn't in a position where he canordoose ais weapons. i think he's scrambling big-time. all the polls show that. on a personal note i can't wait for the debates. one of the line
mr .ll vote trent my job is not to worry about these people. >> one of mitt romney's central arguments of the campaign is president obama just has not createbs. wyonols that have not created the jobs america needs, then you know it's time to choose a new lead, get a new coach. get amica owinagai >> romney's spokesperson andrea sal lead out the official romney line on msnbc today. >> haven't created a single net new job. >> that was september 4th. excuse me. today...
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mr. romney is close but still in negative territory at 49%. he enjoys an edge on handling the deficit and joblessness, but trails on virtually every other big issue, including medicare, taxes and foreign policy. keeping them honest, when it comes to some of those issues, both candidates have come up short either on specifics or credibility. issues like cutting taxes without ballooning the deficit or burdening the middle class. the romney campaign has been asked again and again for specifics. here's runningmate paul ryan just yesterday on fox news. >> there's been a traditional democrat and republican consensus lowering tax rates by broadening the tax base works. and you can -- >> i have to -- you haven't given me the math. >> well, i don't have -- it would take me too long to go through all of the math. >> chris wallace kept trying but came away empty-handed. he's not the only one. take a look. >> which of the deductions are you going to be willing to eliminate? which of the tax credits are you going to -- when are you going to be able to tell
mr. romney is close but still in negative territory at 49%. he enjoys an edge on handling the deficit and joblessness, but trails on virtually every other big issue, including medicare, taxes and foreign policy. keeping them honest, when it comes to some of those issues, both candidates have come up short either on specifics or credibility. issues like cutting taxes without ballooning the deficit or burdening the middle class. the romney campaign has been asked again and again for specifics....
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>> we saw mr. romney as an etch-a-sketch. when he was running in the republican primary he moved to the right. yesterday he pretended to be somewhat of a centerist. but here's the point, let's be clear. romney won the performance debate last night, no question about it. but in terms of policy, let me ask senator hutchinson, romney will cut social security. and i believe senator hutchinson agrees with him. romney will convert medicare into a voucher program, which will be a disaster for senior citizens who are ill. romney -- let me finish please, he will make devastating cuts in medicare slowing millions and millions of children off of health insurance. romney at a time when we have the most unequal distribution of wealth and income since the 1920s will give huge, huge tax breaks to millionaires and billionaires while devastating programs that working families need. that is the policy position of romney. yes, he did very well in his performance, the president did not do so well. but in terms of the essence of what he stands fo
>> we saw mr. romney as an etch-a-sketch. when he was running in the republican primary he moved to the right. yesterday he pretended to be somewhat of a centerist. but here's the point, let's be clear. romney won the performance debate last night, no question about it. but in terms of policy, let me ask senator hutchinson, romney will cut social security. and i believe senator hutchinson agrees with him. romney will convert medicare into a voucher program, which will be a disaster for...
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mr. reich, good to have you back with us tonight. i want to play another piece from the same 1985 video where mitt romney offers three reasons bain and company decided to create bain capital. here it is. >> three reasons. we recognize that we have the potential to develop a significant and proprietary flow of business opportunities. secondly, we had concepts and experience which would allow us to identify potential value and hidden value in a particular investment candidate, and third, we had the consulting resources and management skills and management resources to become actively involved in the companies we invested in to help them realize their potential value. >> i tell you what, he has the corporate lingo down. we didn't hear one word about creating jobs and we never would under this economic model. do you believe we would? >> no, ed, in fact, creating jobs, ed, at best is a particular product maybe of a long-term strategy to build new products and also build new markets and keep americans employed. but that is not the centerpi
mr. reich, good to have you back with us tonight. i want to play another piece from the same 1985 video where mitt romney offers three reasons bain and company decided to create bain capital. here it is. >> three reasons. we recognize that we have the potential to develop a significant and proprietary flow of business opportunities. secondly, we had concepts and experience which would allow us to identify potential value and hidden value in a particular investment candidate, and third, we...
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the latest poll shows the president up over nine points over mr. romney. absentee bat los -- but can the congressman and governor romney close the deal in the badger state in the imagine who scareded off against scott walker against in the gub natural torl elections, mayor barrett, thank you so much for joining me. so the president hit the 50% mark in her state. how could you compare the president -- >> well, it's rising and i think when paul ryan was first name as a presidential-vice presidential can dwat. the president was here last week, he'll be here later this week. i think they know they're not going to have a 14-point victory here. but they're hoping to please the deal pretty soon. >> is that what you attribute this surge to? >> well, i think that is certainly one of the factors, but i think another one is that the president does have a strong ground game here in wisconsin and as you can imagine, there's going to be a much larger turnout in the november election than in any of the previously election. that always brings a lot of students out. but th
the latest poll shows the president up over nine points over mr. romney. absentee bat los -- but can the congressman and governor romney close the deal in the badger state in the imagine who scareded off against scott walker against in the gub natural torl elections, mayor barrett, thank you so much for joining me. so the president hit the 50% mark in her state. how could you compare the president -- >> well, it's rising and i think when paul ryan was first name as a presidential-vice...
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and now mr. romney wants another $5 trillion in tax cuts that he can't pay for. we're not going to let that happen. we are not going to fall backward, not with so much at stake, not now. it didn't work then. it won't work now. and that's why i'm running for a second term as president of the united states. i will tell you, i'll tell you what we need to move forward. we got to invest in small business. we got to invest in manufacturers creating jobs here in ohio, here in the united states of america. we have got to recruit 100,000 new math and science teachers to train to make sure our young people have -- to make sure our young people have the skills that they need. we got to train 2 million workers at community colleges to bring down college tuition cost s. we got to cut our oil imports in half and create thousands of new jobs and energy. we got to use the savings from ending the war in iraq and afghanistan, to pay down our deficit. put some people to work, doing some nation building right here at home. that's the agenda we need. that's how you strengthen the mid
and now mr. romney wants another $5 trillion in tax cuts that he can't pay for. we're not going to let that happen. we are not going to fall backward, not with so much at stake, not now. it didn't work then. it won't work now. and that's why i'm running for a second term as president of the united states. i will tell you, i'll tell you what we need to move forward. we got to invest in small business. we got to invest in manufacturers creating jobs here in ohio, here in the united states of...
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the late mr. rogers, everyone's neighbor, appeared before the senate subcommittee on communications and gave what proves to be a timeless defense of programs like those offered by pbs. >> we made a hundred programs for een, the eastern educational network, and then when the money ran out people in boston and pittsburgh and chicago all came to the foreand said we've got to have more of this neighborhood expression of care. and this is what i give. i give an expression of care every day to each child. unfortunately levar burton had a travel delay and could not join us tonight. we'll have him on the program next week if he is available. this story isn't going to go away. politics takes funny turns now and then. for the life of me i will never understand why mitt romney thinks this is a huge problem in the federal budget deficit. it's amazing. karen finney stays with us tonight. what is the strategy here, karen? why would mitt romney -- this is such a sliver of the federal budget. why would he use som
the late mr. rogers, everyone's neighbor, appeared before the senate subcommittee on communications and gave what proves to be a timeless defense of programs like those offered by pbs. >> we made a hundred programs for een, the eastern educational network, and then when the money ran out people in boston and pittsburgh and chicago all came to the foreand said we've got to have more of this neighborhood expression of care. and this is what i give. i give an expression of care every day to...
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>> that's not claire -- i said i'm supporting mr. akin and he's going to work as hard as he can. >> mitt romney is not supporting todd akin. >> i'm a missourian. i want a senator who will vote to change the way the federal government is operating. that's not the incumbent of missouri. >> thank you for being with us today. >> up next, our politico briefing. the five things to watch for tonight in denver. you're watching "andrea mitchell reports" special coverage of the presidential debate live in denver, only on msnbc. humans -- even when we cross our t's and dot our i's, we still run into problems. namely, other humans. which is why, at liberty mutual insurance, auto policies come with new car replacement and accident forgiveness if you qualify. see what else comes standard at libertymutual.com. liberty mutual insurance. responsibility. what's your policy? >>> in today's debate edition of our politico briefing politico's list of the five things to watch tonight. politico's jonathan martin joins us now. hey, jonathan. what a gorgeous
>> that's not claire -- i said i'm supporting mr. akin and he's going to work as hard as he can. >> mitt romney is not supporting todd akin. >> i'm a missourian. i want a senator who will vote to change the way the federal government is operating. that's not the incumbent of missouri. >> thank you for being with us today. >> up next, our politico briefing. the five things to watch for tonight in denver. you're watching "andrea mitchell reports" special...
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. >> governor romney, two-minute closing. >> thank you, jim, mr. president. thank you for tuning in this evening. this is an important election, and i'm concerned about america. i'm concerned about the direction america has been taking over the last four years. i know this is bigger than an election about the two of us. as individuals. it's bigger than our respective parties. an election about the course of america. what kind of america do you want for yourself and our children. there are two very different paths we began speaking about this evening, and over the course of this month, we had two more presidential debates and a vice presidential debates, they lead in very different directions and not just looking to our words to take evidence of where they go. you can look at the record. no question in my mind, if the president is re-elected will you see a middle class squeeze. i will get incomes up again. you will see chronic unemployment. 43 straight months with unemployment above 8%. if i'm president, i had create -- help create 12 million new jobs in this
. >> governor romney, two-minute closing. >> thank you, jim, mr. president. thank you for tuning in this evening. this is an important election, and i'm concerned about america. i'm concerned about the direction america has been taking over the last four years. i know this is bigger than an election about the two of us. as individuals. it's bigger than our respective parties. an election about the course of america. what kind of america do you want for yourself and our children....
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here's a sample of romney at what many thereafter said was his best performance. >> mr. speaker, i'm not anti-immigrant. my father was born in mexico. my wife's father was born in wales. they came to this country. the idea that i'm anti-immigrant is repulsive. don't use a term like that. megyn: is that the guy we're likely to see show up this week? because that, of course, was with the great debate coach who then got let go by the romney camp. >> we'll see. i still think you don't want to be responding, you want to be laying out your views, and you want to be prosecuting the president. he needs to go in there with the mind of a tough-minded district attorney who's trying to prosecute the guy who he wants to be on trial, not defending himself. megyn: the two harvard law school graduates, romney also was a harvard mba, will square off and try to tell americans that they're very relatable. [laughter] we'll look forward to that. all right, chris, thank you. >> thank you. megyn: well, these debates, i mean, they're great theater for the american public, and they really do hel
here's a sample of romney at what many thereafter said was his best performance. >> mr. speaker, i'm not anti-immigrant. my father was born in mexico. my wife's father was born in wales. they came to this country. the idea that i'm anti-immigrant is repulsive. don't use a term like that. megyn: is that the guy we're likely to see show up this week? because that, of course, was with the great debate coach who then got let go by the romney camp. >> we'll see. i still think you don't...